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<description><![CDATA[YOU NEO-CONS NEVER QUIT WITH YOUR ONE SIDED STORY...GRANTED I FIND CLINTON AT FAULT ALSO FOR 9/11 BUT GET ALL YOUR FACTS....THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT HANDED OVER DOCUMENTS FROM SOME TERRORIST WHO BLEW UP A FEW SEATS ON A PLANE AND HAD EVIDENCE OF WHAT WAS IN THE WORKS BACK AROUND 1996!!!! THIS EVIDENCE WAS PASSED ON TO BUSH WHEN HIS PEEPS TOOK POWER...THEY TOO NEGLECTED THE EVIDENCE OF WHAT WAS IN THE WORKS AND TO SAY OBAMA WOULD NOT MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN MCCAIN IS CRAP TOO...ITS ALL COMING TOGETHER FOR THE NEO-CONS NOW THAT ISRAEL WILL BOMB IRAN VERY SOON AND WE CAN GET INVOLVED IN ANOTHER SPIRUTAL WAR.. ALL THE CONS WILL BE POINTING TO THE BIBLE SAYING THE "END TIMES" THANKS REPUBLICANS FOR YOUR NEO CON HIJACKING AND ILLEGAL WAR IN IRAQ AND STAY THE COURSE CRAP AS WELL AS A DOLLAR BEING WORTH TOILET PAPER AND FUEL CLOSING IN ON 5 BUCKS WAIT TIL THIS WINTER WHEN NO ONE CAN HEAT THERE HOUSES...JUST STAY THE COURSE AND KEEP ADDING ANOTHER 12-15 BILLION A MONTH TO OUR NATIONAL DEBT!!!]]></description>
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According to Sen. Barack Obama, there is a relatively painless solution to the terrorism problem America faces today: going back to the anti-terrorism tactics of the Clinton years.<br>
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"It is my firm belief that we can track terrorists, we can crack down on threats against the United States, but we can do so within the constraints of our Constitution," the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee told ABC News last week. "And you know, let's take the example of Guantanamo [Bay]. What we know is that, in previous terrorist attacks, for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated. And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of those folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law around the world, and given a boost to terrorist recruitment, in countries that say, 'Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims,' " Obama added, "We could have done the exact same thing, but done it in a way that was consistent with our laws."<br>
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It would be difficult to imagine a more perfect example of the "September 10" mentality - including the notion that the United States could pretend that terrorism was just another form of criminal behavior, another problem for police and prosecutors to handle as best they can. Mr. Obama's premise that the World Trade Center bombing trial could serve as a model for today's war is nonsense - dangerous nonsense. On February 26, 1993, a terrorist cell affiliated with al Qaeda detonated a bomb in a parking garage below the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring 1,000. From the beginning, the investigation of the World Trade Center bombing was crippled by the Clinton Administration's disorganization: It had only been in office one month, and Janet Reno had not been confirmed as attorney general. But the problems with the administration's handling of the case ran much deeper than that. Senior officials insisted on treating the case as if it were merely a law enforcement issue and avoiding the question of foreign state sponsorship. Senior administration officials rebuffed efforts by CIA chief James Woolsey to investigate evidence that foreign governments may have been behind the bombing.<br>
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In point of fact, there were two trials that took place in mid-1990s involving members of the terrorist cell that conspired to bomb the World Trade Center. The spiritual leader of the terrorist network was Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman (the blind sheik), a radical cleric who emigrated from Egypt to the United States and had been comrade-in-arms to Ayman al-Zawahiri, who later became Osama bin Laden's deputy in al Qaeda. In the mid-1990s, the blind sheik and members of his terror cell were convicted in the bombing of the World Trade Center and conspiracy to bomb prominent New York City landmarks, including the United Nations, the Holland and Lincoln Tunnels and the FBI's Manhattan headquarters.<br>
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Obama suggests that by trying members of the terror cell in open court, the U.S. government was able to fight terrorism in an enlightened, internationally popular way that did not that did not damage U.S. security. He could hardly be more wrong. During the 1995 prosecution of the blind sheik, prosecutors turned the names of 200 unindicted coconspirators over to the defense, as they were required to do under the discovery rules of the civilian criminal justice system. U.S. District Judge Michael Mukasey, who currently serves as attorney general of the United States, presided over the case. He warned defense attorneys that the information could only be used to prepare for trial - not for other purposes. But within 10 days, according to Mukasey, the list was in downtown Khartoum and bin Laden, then operating out of Sudan, knew that the government was on his trail.<br>
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"By providing classified evidence to the defense in that terrorism case, we had effectively informed al Qaida as to which of its agents we had uncovered," Republican Sens. Jon Kyl, Jeff Sessions, Lindsey Graham, John Cornyn and Tom Coburn wrote last year. The five Republicans, all members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, were making the case against legislation pushed by the panel's chairman, Sen. Patrick Leahy, Vermont Democrat, that would give habeas corpus rights to aliens detained as enemy combatants. The Republican senators added: "In another case in which terrorists were tried in the civilian criminal justice system, testimony about the use of cell phones tipped off terrorists as to how the government was monitoring terrorist networks. Again according to Judge Mukasey, 'there was a piece of innocuous testimony about the delivery of a cell phone.' This testimony alerted terrorists to government surveillance, 'and as a result, [their] communication network shut down within days and intelligence was lost to the government forever, intelligence that might have prevented who knows what.' "<br>
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Another critical component of the problem was the "wall" that developed as a result of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), the primary federal law governing the surveillance of<br>
suspected terrorist communications. As a special FISA review court held in 2002, FISA "as passed by Congress in 1978 clear did not preclude or limit the government's use or proposed use of foreign intelligence information, which included evidence of certain kinds of criminal activity, in a criminal prosecution." (emphasis in the original.) But beginning with a series of judicial rulings in the 1980s, bureaucratic custom began to take hold: Criminal investigators and intelligence agents should be kept apart whenever possible, lest a criminal prosecution become "contaminated" by intelligence information that could not be admitted in court.<br>
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All of these problems with FISA existed well before the Clinton Administration. But they were exacerbated by Jamie Gorelick, the number two person in the Clinton Administration Justice Department. Mrs. Gorelick authored a 1995 directive that made it more difficult for the FBI to locate two of the September 11th hijackers who had already entered the United States by the summer of 2001. In April 2004, Attorney General John Ashcroft, declassified a four-page directive sent by Gorelick to Mary Jo White, the New York-based U.S. attorney investigating the first World Trade Center bombing, as well as FBI Director Louis Freeh. In the memo, Gorelick ordered White and Freeh to to follow information-sharing procedures that "go beyond what is legally required" in order to avoid "any risk of creating an unwarranted appearence" that the Justice Department was using FISA warrants instead of ordinary criminal investigative procedures in an effort to undermine the civil liberties of terrorism suspects. In testimony before the September 11th commission, Ashcroft explained how Jamie Gorelick's wall made it much more difficult during the summer of 2001 to find Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi, two of the September 11th hijackers.<br>
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One might counter that Ashcroft is a partisan Republican who spent eight years in the Senate fighting against virtually every major policy proposal made by the Clinton Administration. Yet his testimony dovetails almost perfectly with that of Stewart Baker, who served under President Clinton as general counsel of the National Security Agency in 1993-94. In 1994, after leaving his NSA job, Baker argued in favor of leaving in place the "wall" between law enforcement and intelligence and even suggested that the wall be raised even further (which is exactly what Gorelick did with her 1995 directive). In retrospect, "I was wrong, but not alone, in assigning a high importance to theoretical privacy risks," Baker wrote in Slate magazine on December 31, 2003. "In hindsight, that choice seems little short of feckless, for it made the failures of August and September 2001 nearly inevitable." What "failures" was he referring to? The inability to locate al-Mihdhar and Alhazmi. Two and a half weeks before the September 11th attacks, the U.S. government knew that the two men were inside the United States. They were living here under their own names, which they were using to carry out financial transactions, go to flight school, earn frequent flier miles and obtain a California identity card. Despite an extensive paper trail, the U.S. government failed to find them.<br>
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The reason for that, Baker demonstrated, was the fact that the FBI, acting on legal advice, refused to involve its criminal agents in the investigation. When an FBI intelligence agent looking for the two terrorists requested help from the criminal division just weeks before September 11th, FBI headquarters sent him a memo warning him that members of the FBI's criminal division could not participate in the investigation. In a reply message, the New York agent protested the decision, in what turned out to be disturbingly prescient terms: [S]omeday someone will die - and wall or not - the public will not understand why we were not more effective and throwing every resource we had at certain 'problems.' Let's hope the [lawyers who gave the advice] will stand behind their decisions then, especially since the biggest threat to us now, UBL [Usama bin Laden, is getting the most 'protection.' "<br>
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In short, the disaster of September 11th resulted in no small part from the very policies of the 1990s that Obama is so proud of: the failed U.S. government effort to fight terrorism as if it was simply another problem to be "solved" by law enforcement, judges and the courts. John McCain understands that this is foolish - dangerously so. Whether he is capable of articulating this to the voters is anyone's guess.<br>
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<description><![CDATA[HEY NEO-CONS GIVE IT A REST ON WHO SUPPORTS WHO...IF YOUR PARTY WAS SO GIVING AND CARED MORE MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE ELECTED A CANIDATE WHO WAS BI-RACIAL 30 YEARS AGO...ENOUGH OF YOUR WITTY DRIBBLE AND KEEP LISTENING TO PUSS AND DRINK YOUR INSANITY KOOL-AID...YOU HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO TURN THINGS AROUND AND YOU HAVEN'T SO QUIT TRYING TO TURN THE DEMOCRATS ON EACH OTHER!!!!! kEEP GETTING YOUR INFO FROM ROVE HOPEFULLY HE'LL BURN IN HELL FOR HIS CRAP TOO..AND BEFORE YOU JUMP ON WES CLARK..REMEMBER IT WAS YOU PARTY THAT STARTED THE SWIFT-BOATS FOR TRUTH..I SEE MCCAIN HAS ALREADY USED THEM IN COMMERCIAL....KINDA SUCKS GETTING A TASTE OF YOUR OWN SHIT YOU THREW BEFORE TO GET YOUR G.W. ELECTED, ABOUT TIME SOMEONE THREW IT BACK!!!!!!]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[How Can a 'Fellow Black American' Oppose Obama? (Grand Rapids)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[The facts speak for themself. <br>
An editorial from yahoo.<br>
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I am shocked that you oppose Barack Obama and belong to the Republican Party. We must get over ourselves and realize there is room at the top for everyone and we must get there by helping each other — instead of agreeing with policies and old politics that are proven not to work. <br>
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To endorse John McCain, a person who will not make it easier for the underprivileged, is just too much. How can a fellow black American feel this way? <br>
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Your Former Supporter <br>
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Dear Former Supporter, <br>
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Do you have any Republican friends, let alone black ones? If so, how many of them want to make it harder "for the underprivileged"? <br>
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You also might want to familiarize yourself with the history of the Democratic and Republican parties, and see which party has stood up longer for the rights of people of color. Do you know that Democrats opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution — abolishing slavery, granting citizenship rights to newly freed slaves, and guaranteeing the right to vote (at least on paper) to blacks, respectively? Do you know that most of the politicians who stood for segregation were Southern Democrats? Do you know that the Ku Klux Klan was founded by Democrats, one of whose goals was to stop the spread of the Republican Party? Do you know that, as a percentage of the party, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964? <br>
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Do you know that inner-city parents want vouchers — the right to determine where their children go to school? Do you know most Democrats, including Barack Obama, oppose this? Republicans, for the most part, support vouchers. Where vouchers have been tried, kids appear to perform better, with higher parental satisfaction. You tell me, how many things are more important than a child's education? <br>
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Do you know that 36 percent of babies aborted are black, while blacks make up 17 percent of live births? Do you know that polls show blacks are more pro-life than are whites? Yet the Democratic Party — to which over 90 percent of blacks belong — is the party of Roe v. Wade, requiring states to legalize abortion on demand. Do you know that Margaret Sanger, the founder of the organization that became Planned Parenthood, believed that poor blacks were inferior and that aborting their babies made our society better? Look it up. <br>
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Do you know that blacks stand to benefit more than whites through Social Security privatization, a position opposed by Obama but supported by McCain? Are you even familiar with the issue and what a powerful income-generating vehicle it would be for blacks? If not, take a look at the research done by the libertarian think tank Cato Institute and the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation. <br>
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Porous borders enable illegal aliens to enter our country and threaten the jobs and lower the wages of Americans, many of whom are unskilled people of color. Which party is more determined to deal with this — Republicans or Democrats? Obama called the foes of the House anti-illegal immigration bill "ugly and racist." I did not support the bill, but vehemently object to characterizing those who did as "ugly and racist." <br>
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You speak of policies that have "proven not to work." What about the "war on poverty" that began in the '60s, the policies that Obama and his party want to continue and expand? Do you know that today 70 percent of black children and over 50 percent of Hispanics are born outside of wedlock? The welfare state — which Democrats want to expand — has played a huge role in discouraging marriage and destabilizing families. <br>
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Speaking of helping the "underprivileged," I'd suggest you read a book called "Who Really Cares," by Arthur C. Brooks. A non-Republican professor raised by Democrats, he examined the charitable spending habits of Democrats and Republicans. The results surprised him. Brooks found that Republicans give far more of their money and time for charitable purposes than do Democrats. And the giving is not confined to their churches or other houses of worship. This, by the way, has nothing to do with income. Poor Republicans give more than poor Democrats. <br>
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Compassion is not about making people dependent on government. Compassion is about encouraging personal responsibility, and getting people to understand that life is about making choices. Poverty does not cause crime. Crime causes poverty. Poverty does not cause a child to have a child. A child having a child causes poverty. Finishing high school is a choice. Not joining a gang is a choice. Not having a child until you have the maturity and the means to raise that child is a choice. <br>
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You ask how can a "fellow black American feel this way"? Quite a statement. You may disagree, but it doesn't make me less caring and compassionate than you are. I'm sure you truly consider yourself open-minded and tolerant. But based on your letter, tolerance ends — especially with "fellow black Americans" — if someone has an opposing point of view. <br>
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Larry <br>
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Here is a link to his web site, www.mohrformichigan.com , I know him personally and he will do a good job for the area and for the state to help get things back in order in Lansing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[There is a new Obama HQ in Grand Rapids!!<br>
If anyone wants to volunteer, to be part of the greatest campaign machine in modern history and help elect Barack Obama to be President then JOIN US.<br>
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Hours 9am to 9pm, weekdays.<br>
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Call 616-328-5654<br>
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949 Wealthy Street, Suite 201<br>
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As of right now we'll holding a weekly meeting at 6:30pm, on Wednesdays! If you can help or have any ideas, stop on by!<br>
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We'll still getting started, so any help you can give would be awesome (we just got chairs the other day!)<br>
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Our budget is ZERO, so if you have any office supplies, food snacks, bottled water, office equipment (print, copier, fax, etc).<br>
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I'm bringing in a coffee maker that I don't use! Anything and everything helps!!<br>
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But most of all, we need helping hands!! To register voters, make calls, put up signs and bring in more volunteers!!<br>
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It doesn't matter how great he is unless WE get the VOTES!!!<br>
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<description><![CDATA[Someone clearly has an axe to grind.  How come no mention of how we have been unkind in wanting the illegal aliens deported?  The Mexicans are going to be upset that they were not included in this essay on why the US sucks.  Maybe if we do elect Senator Obama to be our next president that will make up for all of the transgressions of the US.  Maybe having a black in the White house will make up for the years of injustice his ancestors suffered.  Opps, he has no ancestors that suffered from slavery.  One of the reasons, at the begining of his campain, the black community was against him.  He was not black enough.  Anyone remember those comments?  Oh well.  I am sure that it would make some feel warm and fuzzy none the less.  Come on people, the US is ready for a black to be president, just not this black.     ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[please read it's long but worth it...<br>
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March 18, 2008<br>
Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama and the Unacceptability of Truth<br>
Of National Lies and Racial  America<br>
By TIM WISE<br>
For most white folks, indignation just doesn't wear well. Once<br>
affected or conjured up, it reminds one of a pudgy man, wearing a<br>
tie that may well have fit him when he was fifty pounds lighter, but<br>
which now cuts off somewhere above his navel and makes him look like<br>
an idiot.<br>
Indignation doesn't work for most whites, because having remained<br>
sanguine about, silent during, indeed often supportive of so much<br>
injustice over the years in this country--the theft of native land<br>
and genocide of indigenous persons, and the enslavement of Africans<br>
being only two of the best examples--we are just a bit late to get<br>
into the game of moral rectitude. And once we enter it, our efforts<br>
at righteousness tend to fail the test of sincerity.<br>
But here we are, in 2008, fuming at the words of Pastor Jeremiah<br>
Wright, of Trinity United Church of Christ in  Chicago --occasional ly<br>
Barack Obama's pastor, and the man whom Obama credits with having<br>
brought him to Christianity- -for merely reminding us of those evils<br>
about which we have remained so quiet, so dismissive, so<br>
unconcerned. It is not the crime that bothers us, but the<br>
remembrance of it, the unwillingness to let it go--these last words<br>
being the first ones uttered by most whites it seems whenever<br>
anyone, least of all an "angry black man" like Jeremiah Wright,<br>
foists upon us the bill of particulars for several centuries of<br>
white supremacy.<br>
But our collective indignation, no matter how loudly we announce it,<br>
cannot drown out the truth. And as much as white  America may not be<br>
able to hear it (and as much as politics may require Obama to<br>
condemn it) let us be clear, Jeremiah Wright fundamentally told the<br>
truth.<br>
Oh I know that for some such a comment will seem shocking. After<br>
all, didn't he say that  America "got what it deserved" on 9/11? And<br>
didn't he say that black people should be singing "God Damn America"<br>
because of its treatment of the African American community<br>
throughout the years?<br>
Well actually, no he didn't.<br>
Wright said not that the attacks of September 11th were justified,<br>
but that they were, in effect, predictable. Deploying the imagery of<br>
chickens coming home to roost is not to give thanks for the return<br>
of the poultry or to endorse such feathered homecoming as a positive<br>
good; rather, it is merely to note two things: first, that what goes<br>
around, indeed, comes around--a notion with longstanding theological<br>
grounding--and secondly, that the  U.S. has indeed engaged in more<br>
than enough violence against innocent p eople to make it just a tad<br>
bit hypocritical for us to then evince shock and outrage about an<br>
attack on ourselves, as if the latter were unprecedented.<br>
He noted that we killed far more people, far more innocent civilians<br>
in  Hiroshima and  Nagasaki than were killed on 9/11 and "never batted<br>
an eye." That this statement is true is inarguable, at least amongst<br>
sane people. He is correct on the math, he is correct on the<br>
innocence of the dead (neither city was a military target), and he<br>
is most definitely correct on the lack of remorse or even self-doubt<br>
about the act: sixty-plus years later most Americans still believe<br>
those attacks were justified, that they were needed to end the war<br>
and "save American lives."<br>
But not only does such a calculus suggest that American lives are<br>
inherently worth more than the lives of Japanese civilians (or, one<br>
supposes, Vietnamese, Iraqi or Afghan civilians too), but it also<br>
ignores the long-declassified documents, and President Truman's own<br>
war diaries, all of which indicate clearly that  Japan had already<br>
signaled its desire to end the war, and that we knew they were going<br>
to surrender, even without the dropping of atomic weapons. The<br>
conclusion to which these truths then attest is simple, both in its<br>
basic veracity and it monstrousness: namely, that in those places we<br>
committed premeditated and deliberate mass murder, with no<br>
justification whatsoever; and yet for saying that I will receive<br>
more hate mail, more hostility, more dismissive and contemptuous<br>
responses than will those who suggest that no body count is too high<br>
when we're the ones doing the killing. Jeremiah Wright becomes a<br>
pariah, because, you see, we much prefer the logic of George Bush<br>
the First, who once said that as President he would "never apologize<br>
for the  United States of America . I don't care what the facts are."<br>
And Wright didn't say blacks should be singing "God Damn America."<br>
He was suggesting that blacks owe little moral allegiance to a<br>
nation that has treated so many of them for so long as animals, as<br>
persons undeserving of dignity and respect, and which even now locks<br>
up hundreds of thousands of non-violent offenders (especially for<br>
drug possession), even while whites who do the same crimes (and<br>
according to the data, when it comes to drugs, more often in fact),<br>
are walking around free. His reference to God in that sermon was<br>
more about what God will do to such a nation, than it was about what<br>
should or shouldn't happen. It was a comment derived from, and fully<br>
in keeping with, the black prophetic tradition, and although one can<br>
surely disagree with the theology (I do, actually, and don't believe<br>
that any God either blesses or condemns nation states for their<br>
actions), the statement itself was no call for blacks to turn on<br>
America .. If anything, it was a demand that  America earn the<br>
respect of black people, something the evidence and history suggests<br>
it has yet to do.<br>
Finally, although one can certainly disagree with Wright about his<br>
suggestion that the government created AIDS to get rid of black<br>
folks--and I do, for instance--it is worth pointing out that Wright<br>
isn't the only one who has said this. In fact, none other than Bill<br>
Cosby (oh yes, that Bill Cosby, the one white folks love because of<br>
his recent moral crusade against the black poor) proffered his<br>
belief in the very same thing back in the early '90s in an interview<br>
on CNN, when he said that AIDS may well have been created to get rid<br>
of people whom the government deemed "undesirable" including gays<br>
and racial minorities.<br>
So that's the truth of the matter: Wright made one comment that is<br>
highly arguable, but which has also been voiced by white  America 's<br>
favorite black man, another that was horrib ly misinterpreted and<br>
stripped of all context, and then another that was demonstrably<br>
accurate. And for this, he is pilloried and made into a virtual<br>
enemy of the state; for this, Barack Obama may lose the support of<br>
just enough white folks to cost him the Democratic nomination,<br>
and/or the Presidency; all of it, because Jeremiah Wright, unlike<br>
most preachers opted for truth. If he had been one of<br>
those "prosperity ministers" who says Jesus wants nothing so much as<br>
for you to be rich, like Joel Osteen, that would have been fine. Had<br>
he been a retread bigot like Falwell was, or Pat Robertson is, he<br>
might have been criticized, but he would have remained in good<br>
standing and surely not have damaged a Presidential candidate in<br>
this way. But unlike Osteen, and Falwell, and Robertson, Jeremiah<br>
Wright refused to feed his parishioners lies..<br>
What Jeremiah Wright knows, and told his flock--though make no<br>
mistake, they already kn ew it--is that 9/11 was neither the first,<br>
nor worst act of terrorism on American soil. The history of this<br>
nation for folks of color, was for generations, nothing less than an<br>
intergenerational hate crime, one in which 9/11s were woven into the<br>
fabric of everyday life: hundreds of thousands of the enslaved who<br>
died from the conditions of their bondage; thousands more who were<br>
lynched (as many as 10,000 in the first few years after the Civil<br>
War, according to testimony in the Congressional Record at the<br>
time); millions of indigenous persons wiped off the face of the<br>
Earth. No, to some, the horror of 9/11 was not new. To some it was<br>
not on that day that "everything changed." To some, everything<br>
changed four hundred years ago, when that first ship landed at what<br>
would become  Jamestown . To some, everything changed when their<br>
ancestors were forced into the hulls of slave ships at  Goree  Island<br>
and brought to a strange land as chat tel. To some, everything<br>
changed when they were run out of  Northern Mexico , only to watch it<br>
become the  Southwest United States , thanks to a war of annihilation<br>
initiated by the  U.S. government. To some, being on the receiving<br>
end of terrorism has been a way of life. Until recently it was<br>
absolutely normal in fact.<br>
But white folks have a hard time hearing these simple truths. We<br>
find it almost impossible to listen to an alternative version of<br>
reality. Indeed, what seems to bother white people more than<br>
anything, whether in the recent episode, or at any other time, is<br>
being confronted with the recognition that black people do not, by<br>
and large, see the world like we do; that black people, by and<br>
large, do not view  America as white people view it. We are, in fact,<br>
shocked that this should be so, having come to believe, apparently,<br>
that the falsehoods to which we cling like a kidney patient clings<br>
to a dialysis machine, a re equally shared by our darker-skinned<br>
compatriots.<br>
This is what James Baldwin was talking about in his classic 1972<br>
work, No Name in the Street, wherein he noted:<br>
"White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor,<br>
grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very<br>
accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world<br>
they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire<br>
lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so<br>
lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for<br>
example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving<br>
maniac."<br>
And so we were shocked in 1987, when Supreme Court Justice Thurgood<br>
Marshall declined to celebrate the bicentennial of the Constitution,<br>
because, as he noted, most of that history had been one of overt<br>
racism and injustice, and to his way of thinking, the only history<br>
worth celebrating had been that of the past three or four decades.<br>
We were shocked to learn that black people actually believed that a<br>
white cop who was a documented racist might frame a black man; and<br>
we're shocked to learn that lots of black folks still perceive the<br>
U.S. as a racist nation--we're literally stunned that people who say<br>
they experience discrimination regularly (and who have the social<br>
science research to back them up) actually think that those<br>
experiences and that data might actually say something about the<br>
nation in which they reside. Imagine.<br>
Whites are easily shocked by what we see and hear from Pastor Wright<br>
and Trinity Church , because what we see and hear so thoroughly<br>
challenges our understanding of who we are as a nation.. But black<br>
people have never, for the most part, believed in the imagery of<br>
the "shining city on a hill," for they have never had the option of<br>
looking at their nation and ignoring the mountain-siz ed warts still<br>
dotting its face when it comes to race. Black people do not, in the<br>
main, get misty eyed at the sight of the flag the way white people<br>
do--and this is true even for millions of black veterans--for they<br>
understand that the nation for whom that flag waves is still not<br>
fully committed to their own equality. They have a harder time<br>
singing those tunes that white people seem so eager to belt out,<br>
like "God Bless  America ," for they know that whites sang those words<br>
loudly and proudly even as they were enforcing Jim Crow segregation,<br>
rioting against blacks who dared move into previously white<br>
neighborhoods, throwing rocks at Dr. King and then cheering, as so<br>
many did, when they heard the news that he had been assassinated.<br>
Whites refuse to remember (or perhaps have never learned) that which<br>
black folks cannot afford to forget. I've seen white people stunned<br>
to the point of paralysis when they learn the truth about lynchings<br>
in this country--when they discover that such events were not just a<br>
couple of good old boys with a truck and a rope hauling some black<br>
guy out to the tree, hanging him, and letting him swing there. They<br>
were never told the truth: that lynchings were often community<br>
events, advertised in papers as "Negro Barbecues," involving<br>
hundreds or even thousands of whites, who would join in the fun, eat<br>
chicken salad and drink sweet tea, all while the black victims of<br>
their depravity were being hung, then shot, then burned, and then<br>
having their body parts cut off, to be handed out to onlookers. They<br>
are stunned to learn that postcards of the events were traded as<br>
souvenirs, and that very few whites, including members of their own<br>
families did or said anything to stop it.<br>
Rather than knowing about and confronting the ugliness of our past,<br>
whites take steps to excise the less flattering aspects of our<br>
history so that we need not be bothered with them. So, in  Tulsa ,<br>
Oklahoma, for example, site of an orgy of violence against the black<br>
community in 1921, city officials literally went into the town<br>
library and removed all reference to the mass killings in the<br>
Greenwood district from the papers with a razor blade--an excising<br>
of truth and an assault on memory that would remain unchanged for<br>
over seventy years.<br>
Most white people desire, or perhaps even require the propagation of<br>
lies when it comes to our history. Surely we prefer the lies to<br>
anything resembling, even remotely, the truth. Our version of<br>
history, of our national past, simply cannot allow for the intrusion<br>
of fact into a worldview so thoroughly identified with fiction. But<br>
that white version of  America is not only extraordinarily<br>
incomplete, in that it so favors the white experience to the<br>
exclusion of others; it is more than that; it is actually a slap in<br>
the face to people of color, a re-injury, a reminder that they are<br>
essentially irrelevant, their concerns trivial, their lives unworthy<br>
of being taken seriously. In that sense, and what few if any white<br>
Americans appear capable of grasping at present, is that "Leave it<br>
Beaver" and "Father Knows Best," portray an  America so divorced from<br>
the reality of the times in which they were produced, as to raise<br>
serious questions about the sanity of those who found them so<br>
moving, so accurate, so real. These iconographic representations of<br>
life in the  U.S. are worse than selective, worse than false, they<br>
are assaults to the humanity and memory of black people, who were<br>
being savagely oppressed even as June Cleaver did housework in heels<br>
and laughed about the hilarious hijinks of Beaver and Larry Mondello.<br>
These portraits of  America are certifiable evidence of how<br>
disconnected white folks were--and to the extent we still love them<br>
and view them as repre sentations of the "good old days" to which we<br>
wish we could return, still are--from those men and women of color<br>
with whom we have long shared a nation. Just two months<br>
before "Leave it to Beaver" debuted, proposed civil rights<br>
legislation was killed thanks to Strom Thurmond's 24-hour filibuster<br>
speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate. One month prior,  Arkansas<br>
Governor Orville Faubus called out the National Guard to block black<br>
students from entering Little Rock Central High; and nine days<br>
before  America was introduced to the Cleavers, and the comforting<br>
image of national life they represented, those black students were<br>
finally allowed to enter, amid the screams of enraged, unhinged,<br>
viciously bigoted white people, who saw nothing wrong with calling<br>
children niggers in front of cameras. That was  America of the 1950s:<br>
not the sanitized version into which so many escape thanks to the<br>
miracle of syndication, which merely allows w hite people to relive a<br>
lie, year after year after year.<br>
No, it is not the pastor who distorts history; Nick at Nite and your<br>
teenager's textbooks do that. It is not he who casts aspersions<br>
upon "this great country" as Barack Obama put it in his public<br>
denunciations of him; it is the historic leadership of the nation<br>
that has cast aspersions upon it; it is they who have cheapened it,<br>
who have made gaudy and vile the promise of American democracy by<br>
defiling it with lies. They engage in a patriotism that is<br>
pathological in its implications, that asks of those who adhere to<br>
it not merely a love of country but the turning of one's nation into<br>
an idol to be worshipped, it not literally, then at least in terms<br>
of consequence.<br>
It is they--the flag-lapel-pin wearing leaders of this land--who<br>
bring shame to the country with their nonsensical suggestions that<br>
we are always noble in warfare, always well-intended, and althoug h<br>
we occasionally make mistakes, we are never the ones to blame for<br>
anything. Nothing that happens to us has anything to do with us at<br>
all. It is always about them. They are evil, crazy, fanatical, hate<br>
our freedoms, and are jealous of our prosperity. When individuals<br>
prattle on in this manner we diagnose them as narcissistic, as<br>
deluded. When nations do it--when our nation does--we celebrate it<br>
as though it were the very model of rational and informed<br>
citizenship.<br>
So what can we say about a nation that values lies more than it<br>
loves truth? A place where adherence to sincerely believed and<br>
internalized fictions allows one to rise to the highest offices in<br>
the land, and to earn the respect of millions, while a willingness<br>
to challenge those fictions and offer a more accurate counter-<br>
narrative earns one nothing but contempt, derision, indeed outright<br>
hatred? What we can say is that such a place is signing its own<br>
de ath warrant. What we can say is that such a place is missing the<br>
only and last opportunity it may ever have to make things right, to<br>
live up to its professed ideals. What we can say is that such a<br>
place can never move forward, because we have yet to fully address<br>
and come to terms with that which lay behind.<br>
What can we say about a nation where white preachers can lie every<br>
week from their pulpits without so much as having to worry that<br>
their lies might be noticed by the shiny white faces in their pews,<br>
while black preachers who tell one after another essential truth are<br>
demonized, not only for the stridency of their tone--which needless<br>
to say scares white folks, who have long preferred a style of praise<br>
and worship resembling nothing so much as a coma--but for merely<br>
calling bullshit on those whose lies are swallowed whole?<br>
And oh yes, I said it: white preachers lie. In fact, they lie with a<br>
skill, fluidity, and prec ision unparalleled in the history of either<br>
preaching or lying, both of which histories stretch back a ways and<br>
have often overlapped. They lie every Sunday, as they talk about a<br>
Savior they have chosen to represent dishonestly as a white man, in<br>
every picture to be found of him in their tabernacles, every<br>
children's story book in their Sunday Schools, every Christmas card<br>
they'll send to relatives and friends this December. But to lie<br>
about Jesus, about the one they consider God--to bear false witness<br>
as to who this man was and what he looked like--is no cause for<br>
concern.<br>
Nor is it a problem for these preachers to teach and preach that<br>
those who don't believe as they believe are going to hell. Despite<br>
the fact that such a belief casts aspersions upon God that are so<br>
profound as to defy belief--after all, they imply that God is so<br>
fundamentally evil that he would burn non-believers in a lake of<br>
eternal fire--many of t he white folks who now condemn Jeremiah<br>
Wright welcome that theology of hate. Indeed, back when President<br>
Bush was the Governor of Texas, he endorsed this kind of thinking,<br>
responding to a question about whether Jews were going to go to<br>
hell, by saying that unless one accepted Jesus as one's personal<br>
savior, the Bible made it pretty clear that indeed, hell was where<br>
you'd be heading.<br>
So you can curse God in this way--and to imply such hate on God's<br>
part is surely to curse him--and in effect, curse those who aren't<br>
Christians, and no one says anything. That isn't considered bigoted.<br>
That isn't considered beyond the pale of polite society. One is not<br>
disqualified from becoming President in the minds of millions<br>
because they go to a church that says that shit every single week,<br>
or because they believe it themselves. And millions do believe it,<br>
and see nothing wrong with it whatsoever.<br>
So white folks are mad at Jeremia h Wright because he challenges<br>
their views about their country. Meanwhile, those same white folks,<br>
and their ministers and priests, every week put forth a false image<br>
of the God Jeremiah Wright serves, and yet it is whites who feel we<br>
have the right to be offended.<br>
Pardon me, but something is wrong here, and whatever it is, is not<br>
to be found at Trinity United Church of Christ.<br>
Tim Wise is the author of: White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a<br>
Privileged Son (Soft Skull Press, 2005), and Affirmative Action:<br>
Racial Preference in Black and White (Routledge: 2005). He can be<br>
reached at: timjwise@msn. com<br>
This essay originally appeared in Lip.<br>
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Dr. Eugene L Cain<br>
eugenecain@mac.com<br>
web.mac.com/eugenecain]]></description>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[A white author's view of Rev. Wright's speech ....A Different Perspect (mi)]]></dc:title>
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<title><![CDATA[RE LOU DOBBS TO BARACK OBAMA "YOU CHOSE YOUR PASTOR" - (mi)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA["Hagee had endorsed Senator John McCain in the 2008 presidential election."<br>
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<title><![CDATA[RAVE RE RE RE Obamas Pastor  (mi)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[So what people are "getting" is that white folks like yourself are deathly afraid of blacks?]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-20T13:08:24-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[RAVE RE RE RE Obamas Pastor  (mi)]]></dc:title>
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<title><![CDATA[RE. Obama's Pastor (mi)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[You people scare the shit out of me I hope to God your the minority because if not this country is in worse shape than I ever thought.<br>
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"he is one of them", "take the power away from whitey", "gimmee something for free" & "dumbing down America for years" talk about paranoia, what do you think "one of THEM" would do to you if they were in power? As far as Racism goes, you have no idea what Racism is, walk a mile in those shoes, and don't ever compare black's in America to the KKK, read the "True" history of blacks in America and not the one they taught you in school.<br>
<br>
"nothing to do but join in protests, go to the capital and denounce the President" unless your sucking on the current political tit yourself, why would you defend the current government,  was your "economic stimulus" check enough to by you off?]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-20T12:58:28-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[RE. Obama's Pastor (mi)]]></dc:title>
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<title><![CDATA[RAVE RE RE Obamas Pastor (Jenison)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[A more true and accurate post has never been made.  It's nice to hear from someone who "Get's it".  ]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-19T23:21:12-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[RAVE RE RE Obamas Pastor (Jenison)]]></dc:title>
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<title><![CDATA[LOU DOBBS TO BARACK OBAMA "YOU CHOSE YOUR PASTOR"]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=47YF421IrGE&"  rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=47YF421IrGE&</a>;feature=related<br>
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<dc:date>2008-06-19T13:37:06-04:00</dc:date>
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<title><![CDATA[Re: Oil Prices]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[People! I love it how your first responses are "make major lifestyle changes!". Ya know it isn't that frickin easy. My husband works for the ARNG in Lansing. We live an hour away, and for us as well as MANY other people getting up and moving CANNOT be done. Seriously how many people do you think can afford a house that isn't selling and the new house, your only option, is to move into. Give me a G.D. break!! To you dude that is screwed just like us, I hear you and I know what you're going through. There are just too many people replying to you that just don't freaking get it that we don't have other options. We need to get together and write letters to the senator.. even though that won't help either. And for you all that are going nit pick this, yes there are other soldiers living an hour away working in Lansing, but having them all in town at the same time enough to carpool DOES NOT HAPPEN. Not everyone goes to the same training at the same time.]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-19T13:00:38-04:00</dc:date>
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<title><![CDATA[TYRONE TOWNSHIP CANDIDATES NEED YOUR VOTE ON AUGUST 5, 2008 (KENT CITY, MI 49330)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[TYRONE TOWNSHIP<br>
SUPERVISOR – 4 Year Term<br>
one to be elected<br>
REP Dennis Kaminski                   <br>
2283 19 Mile Rd<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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REP Derik Miller<br>
15045 Barber Creek<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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CLERK – 4 Year Term (one to be elected)<br>
<br>
REP Melissa Mortensen<br>
2925 19 Mile Rd<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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REP Shelley A. Worley *<br>
76 W. Muskegon St<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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DEM Sally Walton<br>
210 Chary Ridge Dr<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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TREASURER – 4 Year Term  (one to be elected)<br>
REP Juli – Anne Hall *<br>
209 Chary Ridge<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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REP Jennifer A. Lucht<br>
15450 Coalter Ave<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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TRUSTEE – 4 Year Term   (two to be elected)<br>
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REP Matthew J. Drent<br>
16930 Peach Ridge Ave<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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REP Randy Lee Long *<br>
14845 Coalter Ave NW<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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REP Scott Mouthaan<br>
260 W Muskegon St<br>
Kent City, MI 49330<br>
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REP Sharon Olson<br>
2752 18 Mile Rd<br>
Kent City, MI 49330]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-18T15:41:29-04:00</dc:date>
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<title><![CDATA[RE: You've Got To Be Kidding? 2 (mi)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[1. "like on 9/11"<br>
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We went to war with Afghanistan after 911 in response to the attacks.  The Iraq war was the WMD thing until it was spun into the terrorist thing. Fifteen of the attackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon none of them were from Iraqi.<br>
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2. "they are freer now than they ever were. Iraqi women can now Vote! We stopped Sadam from killing his own people, and putting them in mass graves, or is this something you support, genocide?"<br>
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92,067 civilians killed in Iraq to date is that the "freedom" your speaking of?  Saddam was hung for killing 144 people although the actual number varies depending on your source that was the number cited in the trial.  Look up the "Rwandan Genocide" as one example, your religion has a much larger number than all of the sources concerning Saddam added together for genocide, really check the bible also. <br>
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3. "Abortion on the other hand takes the life of innocent human beings for no good reason other than convenience , and human selfishness."<br>
And the war in Iraq is not one of convenience , and human selfishness?<br>
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4. "It's roots in America..."<br>
I believe your speaking about "Margaret Sanger" who didn't actually start Planned Parenthood but ran it at a later date. Although not as colorful nor not as supportive in your argument "Mary Dennett, Clara Gruening Stillman and Jessie Ashley" are credited as the actual founders and their agenda was birth control not abortion as was Margaret Sanger's.  I don't agree with most of Sanger's ideas but Abortions are not free even at Planned Parenthood but the contraceptives are.<br>
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You know Thomas Edison was an Atheist but I bet you use light bulbs?<br>
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5. "Why do communists/liberals in America oppose punishing murders facing capital punishment? They even have the balls to carry signs that read "Thou Shall Not Kill"! Why they turn right around and fully support organized genocide against helpless babies??"<br>
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Why group communist and liberals together?  That's like saying "I don't like oreo's dipped in shit"  I am neither a communist or a liberal nor have I carried a sign that said that. I support capital punishment don't lump me into those groups as I can't answer for them?]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-13T16:39:08-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[RE: You've Got To Be Kidding? 2 (mi)]]></dc:title>
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<title><![CDATA[RE: You've Got To Be Kidding?]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Poster Stated: "Do me a favor, explain to me how it's ok for a "christian" to kill innocent people in a war but abortion is immoral? Please turn off Fox news I'd like to have your full attention on this."
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I realize this is hard for you to understand, but there is a difference between Cold Blooded Murder, and Justifiable homocide (self Defense). War is ugly but necessary to defend this nation against those who would attack it, like on 9/11!
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The Scripture speaks to the effect that Christians are to bind up the broken hearted, and set the captives free! Yes we bombed the crap out of Iraq, but they are freer now than they ever were. Iraqi women can now Vote! We stopped Sadam from killing his own people, and putting them in mass graves, or is this something you support, genocide? If you think you can do better, go over there and try!
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Abortion on the other hand takes the life of innocent human beings for no good reason other than convenience , and human selfishness. It's roots in America are founding upon paganism, and racism. Planned Parenthoods founder was a student of Hitler, and was into the occult just like Hitler was. Maybe you are not aware of the 'Negro Project' where they purposely targeted blacks for abortion in order to keep their numbers down, and weaken their political power. www.blackgenocide.org
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Heres one for you! 
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Why do communists/liberals in America oppose punishing murders facing capital punishment? They even have the balls to carry signs that read "Thou Shall Not Kill"! Why they turn right around and fully support organized genocide against helpless babies??
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WHY? CAUSE COMMUNISM KILLS! IT'S KILLED A HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE, LET'S GIVE IT ANOTHER CHANCE!! NOT!!]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Bob Barr???]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Who the heck is Bob Barr?]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-11T23:58:12-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Bob Barr???]]></dc:title>
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<title><![CDATA[Bob Barr for President Meetup (Grand Rapids Area)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[This meetup is to find like-minded individuals to help Bob Barr win the presidency. We aim to have fun spreading the message of liberty and an adherence to the Constitution.<br>
<br>
Everyone is welcome to bring their particular talents. You do not need to have any campaign experience - only passion for freedom and the desire for a real choice this November.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[re; re: oil prices (GR)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[You drive to the exit nearest to your house and join a car pool. They have carpool lots every where and I have never seen them more full.<br>
<br>
Also... you are making a choice to live 40 miles from work. Pack it up... and move closer..... It's all about choices and compromise. You already have awareness that these hard times are going to get worse before they get better. Move a couple miles from your job. You wont be the only one making such a choice. Seek solutions.... they are out there.<br>
______________________________________________________________________________<br>
No I am fucked because I live 40 miles from work I can't just ride a bike or take a bus or car pool. All I have is my car to get me to work and back.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Register to vote!! (All around Grand Rapids)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I'm doing volunteer work all summer long to register new voters in Grand Rapids.<br>
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If you are not registered to vote, and want to be - please contact me.<br>
<br>
I can meet you wherever you are, or meet at a park/library/coffee shop.<br>
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I'll make it easy for you to get involved in the process.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Re:Re:Oil Prices?]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[No I am fucked because I live 40 miles from work I can't just ride a bike or take a bus or car pool. All I have is my car to get me to work and back.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[You are as "fu**ed" as you allow yourself to be. Get over the oil prices already! They are what they are. Ride your bike, join a car pool, take a bus or simply walk. Ever since gas hit 4.00 a gallon, I have put 50 miles on my car. Live in solutions, not the problems.<br>
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Do you realize that no matter what we do, drill here drill there use eco friendly fuel, the price of gas wont be falling anytime soon. We as people use oil everyday, in the production of almost every product we buy. Ok so we say lets make ethanol, nice idea just grow corn and burn it, but no. It doesn't quite work that way. And not only is it not that simple but its make the price of all other foods go up. Rice is out of control. not to mention corn as well. Ethenol at the pump itself is just as high as regular gas. Hybrid cars are even a waste of money unless you plan on keeping the car till it falls apart. There is no clear way of doing anything except to stop being dependant on foreign oil. Hell we only keep 5% of the oil the land of America produces. If we kept 90% we might be better off. Also maybe if people would stop getting up in arms about "global warming" (which isn't real and I'll explain that in a second) and just get over it we might be ok. Global warming isn't real. This planet has had coolings and warmings for many eons and we didn't cause any of it. It's Earths natural course to warm and cool and warm and cool. I mean come on the ice age melted on its own. It was cause by itself too. First Dinosaurs had a nice hot earth then it got really cold for a long time then heated up to melt tons and tons of ice and its just still there. So no matter what its all fucked..  <br>
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<dc:date>2008-06-10T23:20:29-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[re: Oil Prices]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-10T23:20:29-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[Oil Prices?]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Do you realize that no matter what we do, drill here drill there use eco friendly fuel, the price of gas wont be falling anytime soon. We as people use oil everyday, in the production of almost every product we buy. Ok so we say lets make ethanol, nice idea just grow corn and burn it, but no. It doesn't quite work that way. And not only is it not that simple but its make the price of all other foods go up. Rice is out of control. not to mention corn as well. Ethenol at the pump itself is just as high as regular gas. Hybrid cars are even a waste of money unless you plan on keeping the car till it falls apart. There is no clear way of doing anything except to stop being dependant on foreign oil. Hell we only keep 5% of the oil the land of America produces. If we kept 90% we might be better off. Also maybe if people would stop getting up in arms about "global warming" (which isn't real and I'll explain that in a second) and just get over it we might be ok. Global warming isn't real. This planet has had coolings and warmings for many eons and we didn't cause any of it. It's Earths natural course to warm and cool and warm and cool. I mean come on the ice age melted on its own. It was cause by itself too. First Dinosaurs had a nice hot earth then it got really cold for a long time then heated up to melt tons and tons of ice and its just still there. So no matter what its all fucked..]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-10T16:36:19-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Oil Prices?]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-10T16:36:19-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[OBAMA 2008 (GR)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[GOD HELP US IF HE DOESN'T MAKE PRESIDENT!]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-10T01:01:20-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[OBAMA 2008 (GR)]]></dc:title>
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<title><![CDATA[OBAMA (CAL)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[GOD HELP US NOW !!!GET THAT IDIOT OUT WE HAVE NOW AND ELECT SOMEONE WHO HAS VOTED89 PERCENT WITH BUSH ON HIS WAY OF THINKING??? AND STAY THE COURSE IN IRAQ FOR 50 MORE YEARS????GET SERIOUS...GOD HELP US AND NOT THE NEO-CONS!!!THEY HAVE F*CKED THIS COUNTRY UP ENOUGH....SI SE PUEDE...OBAMA 08!!!!]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-10T00:01:20-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[OBAMA (CAL)]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-10T00:01:20-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[RE Payless is BS 2 (WideAwake)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[<br>
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/</a><br>
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we need alternatives]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-09T15:56:42-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[RE Payless is BS 2 (WideAwake)]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-09T15:56:42-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[RE Payless is BS (Jenison)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[The wiki that you linked does not mention anything about Alaska National Wildlife Reserve (ANWR).  It only talks about the known, proven, reserves.  ANWR holds incredible potential of recoverable oil utilizing current technology.  I am in support of repealing the legislation that prohibits us from further exploring this and other sources of domestic oil.  Innovation in alternative energy are coming and will continue to develope.  The reality is that our economy runs on oil.  We need to utilize the domestic oil while developing alternatives.    See links for additional facts about ANWR<br>
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<a href="http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/alaska-oil-anwar.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/alaska-oil-anwar.html</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/analysis_publications/arctic_national_wildlife_refuge/html/overview.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/analysis_publications/arctic_national_wildlife_refuge/html/overview.html</a><br>
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<dc:date>2008-06-08T02:43:25-04:00</dc:date>
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<title><![CDATA[Barack Hussein Obama (GR)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[God help us all if this man gets elected president]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-06T19:43:13-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Barack Hussein Obama (GR)]]></dc:title>
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<title><![CDATA[Obama and the dnc let's be clear]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[This has nothing to do with Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama.  This is about the DNC saying to me and the 600,000 voters in Mi that we know how you wanted to vote.  Unlike Fl were they were given just a half vote each, in Mi they gave all the uncommitted votes to Sen. Obama plus took 4 away form Sen. Clinton.  That was not fair or right.  We all should remember that uncommitted is an acceptable vote and would have given both Obama and Clinton a chance to make there case. Also Sen. Obama chose not to put his name on the ballot.  To me the fair thing to do was to take away some of the super delegates form Mi..  After all it was not the peoples fault this happened.   ]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-05T23:41:39-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Obama and the dnc let's be clear]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-05T23:41:39-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[OBAMA!!!]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Don't be upset at the national DNC blame your STATE DNC they chose to move the day up and KNEW what would happen, besides HILLARY was the only one who kept her name on the ballot OBAMA LEFT HIS OFF AS WELL AS Edwards so quit your crying over hillary!!! Besides who really wanted another CLINTON???? Remember NAFTA,CHINA FREE TRADE???]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-05T14:24:26-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[OBAMA!!!]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-05T14:24:26-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[Obama the Democratic nominee?]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I have been a Democrat(a John Kennedy democrat) all my life. However after the party leaders chose to ignore the 600,000 who voted in Mi and said we know how you really wanted to vote, so we will give all the uncommitted delegates to Sen. Obama <br>
and we will take away 4 from Sen. Clinton.  This is not the Democratic party that FDR Harry Truman, or JFK built.  Its like the party decided the Sen. Obama should have the nomination no mater what is right or fair.  By doing this thay may have just handed the office of President to Sen McCain. ]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-04T23:31:18-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Obama the Democratic nominee?]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-04T23:31:18-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[Michigan &amp; Grand Rapids Political Discussion at MichiganNewsTalk.com (michigannewstalk.com)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Michigan News Talk just went live today.  If you're looking for a place to talk intelligently about local, Michigan, and national politics - go to <a href="http://www.michigannewstalk.com"  rel="nofollow">Michigan Political Forums</a>.<br>
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<dc:date>2008-06-04T20:22:43-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Michigan &amp; Grand Rapids Political Discussion at MichiganNewsTalk.com (michigannewstalk.com)]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-04T20:22:43-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[rove (cal)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[HE SHOULD BE HORSE WHIPPED FOR HIS CRAP TOO!!!,,WASN'T HIS DAD OR SOMTHING LIKE A NAZI IN WW2??????]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-04T20:20:54-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[rove (cal)]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-04T20:20:54-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[RE: You've Got to Be Kidding?? (Wide Awake)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Do me a favor, explain to me how it's ok for a "christian" to kill innocent people in a war but abortion is immoral?  Please turn off Fox news I'd like to have your full attention on this.]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-04T15:21:57-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[RE: You've Got to Be Kidding?? (Wide Awake)]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-04T15:21:57-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[RE:Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less is pure BS (Wide Awake)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[It takes at least 10 years between drilling and pump, the answer does not lie with destroying what little natural resources we have left.  Look to alternative fuels and avoid this neo-con dribble.<br>
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Facts:<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves#United_States"  rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves#United_States</a>]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-04T15:10:18-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[RE:Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less is pure BS (Wide Awake)]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-04T15:10:18-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[RE: Obama's Revisionist History]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Funny that you copied and pasted the entire article but failed to mention that it was an Op-Ed piece written by Karl Rove.  Kind of a notable omission, wouldn't you say? A bit of a bias perhaps?]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-06-02T21:45:06-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[RE: Obama's Revisionist History]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-06-02T21:45:06-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[Obama's Revisionist History]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121201747075327643.html?mod=googlenews_wsj"  rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121201747075327643.html?mod=googlenews_wsj</a> <br>
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This week's minor controversy about Barack Obama's claim that an uncle liberated Auschwitz was quickly put to rest by his campaign. They conceded that it was a great uncle whose unit liberated Buchenwald, 500 miles away. <br>
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But other, much more troubling, episodes have provided a revealing glimpse into a candidate who instinctively resorts to parsing, evasions and misdirection. The saga over Rev. Jeremiah Wright is Exhibit A. In just 62 days, Americans were treated to eight different explanations. <br>
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First, on Feb. 25, Mr. Obama downplayed Rev. Wright's divisiveness, saying he was "like an old uncle who sometimes will say things that I don't agree with." A week later, Mr. Obama insisted, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial," suggesting that Rev. Wright was criticized because "he was one of the leaders in calling for divestment from South Africa and some other issues like that." <br>
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The issue exploded on March 13, when ABC showed excerpts from Rev. Wright's sermons. Mr. Obama's spokesman said the senator "deeply disagrees" with Rev. Wright's statements, but "now that he is retired, that doesn't detract from Sen. Obama's affection for Rev. Wright or his appreciation for the good works he has done." <br>
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The next day, Mr. Obama offered a fourth defense: "The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation." Mr. Obama also told the Chicago Tribune, "In fairness to him, this was sort of a greatest hits. They basically culled five or six sermons out of 30 years of preaching." <br>
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Then, four days later, in Philadelphia, Mr. Obama finally repudiated Rev. Wright's comments, saying they "denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation." But Mr. Obama went on to say, "I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother. . . ." <br>
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Ten days later, Mr. Obama said if Rev. Wright had not retired as Trinity's pastor, and "had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended . . . then I wouldn't have felt comfortable staying there at the church." (Never mind that Rev. Wright had made no such acknowledgment.) <br>
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On April 28, at the National Press Club, Rev. Wright re-emerged – not to apologize but to repeat some of his most offensive lines. This provoked an eighth defense: "[W]hatever relationship I had with Rev. Wright has changed, as a consequence of this. I don't think that he showed much concern for me. More importantly, I don't think he showed much concern for what we are trying to do in this campaign . . . ." Self-interest is a powerful, but not noble, sentiment in politics. <br>
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The Rev. Wright affair is just one instance where the Illinois senator has said something wrong or offensive, and then offered shifting explanations for his views. Consider flag pins. <br>
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Mr. Obama told an Iowa radio station last October he didn't wear an American flag lapel pin because, after 9/11, it had "became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues . . . ." His campaign issued a statement that "Senator Obama believes that being a patriot is about more than a symbol." To highlight his own moral superiority, he denigrated the patriotism of those who wore a flag. <br>
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Yet by April, campaigning in culturally conservative Pennsylvania, Mr. Obama was blaming others for the controversy he'd created, claiming, "I have never said that I don't wear flag pins or refuse to wear flag pins. This is the kind of manufactured issue that our politics has become obsessed with and, once again, distracts us . . . ." A month later Mr. Obama was once again wearing a pin, saying "Sometimes I wear it, sometimes I don't." <br>
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The Obama revision tour has been seen elsewhere. Last July, Mr. Obama pledged to meet personally and without precondition, during his first year, the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea. Criticized afterwards, he made his pledge more explicitly, naming Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Venezuela strongman Hugo Chávez as leaders he would grace with first-year visits. <br>
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By October, Mr. Obama was backpedaling, talking about needing "some progress or some indication of good faith," and by April, "sufficient preparation." It got so bad his foreign policy advisers were (falsely) denying he'd ever said he'd meet with Mr. Ahmadinejad – even as he still defended his original pledge to have meetings without precondition. <br>
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The list goes on. Mr. Obama's problem is a campaign that's personality-driven rather than idea-driven. Thus incidents calling into question his persona and character can have especially devastating consequences. <br>
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Stripped of his mystique as a different kind of office seeker, he could become just another liberal politician – only one who parses, evades, dissembles and condescends. That narrative is beginning to take hold. If those impressions harden into firm judgments, Mr. Obama will have a very difficult time in November. <br>
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<title><![CDATA[OBAMA VOTE (caledonia)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[YEAH COUNT ME IN FOR OBAMA, HES NOT A CLINTON AND HES NOT A NEO-CON LIKE WHAT WE HAVE NOW...OH AND I'M NOT PLANNING ON SUPPORTING IRAQ FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS AND STAY THE COURSE CRAP LIKE MCCAIN WANTS FOR 9 BILLION A MONTH!!! WITH 9 BILLION A MONTH WE COULD PAY FOR SCHOOL TEACHERS FOR SCHOOL GET PAY RAISES FOR ENLISTED MEN AND WOMEN FOR SCHOOL(ANOTHER MCCAIN MISTAKE)oh yeah for what were spending on over there we can afford some here.....and probably save alot more lives and money!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-05-31T10:04:55-04:00</dc:date>
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<title><![CDATA[Fight Foreclosures on Michigan Families]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Thousands of Michigan’s homes and families are at risk of losing their homes and so far all Washington has done is spend billions of dollars to bail out the predatory lenders that put them at risk in the first place.  Michigan actually has one of the worst foreclosure rates in the nation and yet so little has been done.  Luckily the Michigan Legislature already has a group of bills that can help, they’ve been named the Stop Foreclosure package, but they are yet to see much support.<br>
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You can show your State Legislator that you care about saving Michigan neighborhoods and families by going to <a href="http://fightmiforeclosure.com"  rel="nofollow">http://fightmiforeclosure.com</a><br>
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It only takes a minute and it could mean all the difference to someone you know.<br>
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<dc:date>2008-05-29T11:17:57-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Fight Foreclosures on Michigan Families]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-05-29T11:17:57-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[Like where MI is at now?  Then vote for Obama. (West MI)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I am amazed to hear people say that the state of the ecomomy in MI is due to the Republican presidency.  It has much more to do with Gov Granholm thinking she could tax our way to prosperity.  Increasing taxes and cutting out the tax breaks for the "wealthy" will not increase actual revenue.  Check out the Laffer curve.  We need to cut spending, end ridiculous earmarks, and stop entitlement programs.  Every time Sen Obama addresses any group the main talking point is I am gonna give you something.  Now he has proposed paying for the college education of anyone what wants to become a teacher.  Who picks up that bill?  Joe Q tax payer of coarse, just like every other "program".  The rest of the United States should be paying close attension to what has happened here in MI.  If Sen Obama is elected, the economic conditions we are seeing will be country wide.    ]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-05-29T00:42:29-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Like where MI is at now?  Then vote for Obama. (West MI)]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-05-29T00:42:29-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[Drill Here.  Drill Now.  Pay Less (USA)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Concerned about the abundance of US oil that we can't touch?  Sign up here to express your concerns.<br>
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<dc:date>2008-05-29T00:19:50-04:00</dc:date>
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<dc:title><![CDATA[Drill Here.  Drill Now.  Pay Less (USA)]]></dc:title>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-05-29T00:19:50-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[china (caledonia)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Yeah that sure is gonna work boycott chinese goods!!THE LAZY-ASS UNIONS have been warning everyone of what CORPORATE AMERICA AND WHAT GOP WERE UP TO,FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS AND NOW THE LIGHTS COME ON FOR SHEEP REPUBLICANS WHO ARE MIDDLE CLASS AND REALIZE THEY TOO HAVE BEEN FOOLED?? JUST KEEP LISTENING TO BECK,HANNITTY-INSANITY AND PUSS LIMBO AS THEY DEFEND BIG BUISNESS AND SPIN EVERY WRONG ON THE LEFT AND OF COURSE THE UNIONS!! MAYBE WHEN YOU SHEEP GET SOME TIME PICK UP A COPY OF SCOTT MCLELLANS BOOK TODAY AND SEE WHAT REALLY HAS BEEN GOING ON...UNLESS YOU THINK HE MAKING THAT ALL UP TOO...yEAH THERE PROBABLY is  A LEFT MOVEMENT PUTTING HIM UP TO THIS!! YOU THINK CLINTON WAS BAD... LOOK AT THE "WHOLE" white house from bush cheney rove,LIBBY THERE ALL CONNECTED OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTHS.. GET OFF THE NEO-CON KOOLAID!!!]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-05-28T10:44:02-04:00</dc:date>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-05-28T10:44:02-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[Made In China (Michigan)]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Are we Americans as dumb as we appear --- or --- is it that we just do not think? <br>
While the Chinese, knowingly and intentionally, export inferior products and dangerous toys and goods to be sold in American markets, the media wrings its hands and criticizes the Bush Administration for perceived errors. <br>
Yet 70% of Americans believe that the trading privileges afforded to the Chinese should be suspended. <br>
Well, duh..why do you need the government to suspend trading privileges? <br>
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SIMPLY DO IT YOURSELF, AMERICA!! <br>
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Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says 'Made in China ' or 'PRC' (and that now includes Hong Kong ), simply choose another product or none at all. You will be amazed at how dependent you are on Chinese products, however you will be equally amazed at what you can do without. Who needs plastic eggs to celebrate Easter? <br>
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If you must have eggs, use real ones and benefit some American farmer. Easter is just an example, the point is.. do not wait for the government to act. <br>
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Just go ahead and assume control on your own. <br>
THINK ABOUT THIS If 200 million Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese goods, that's a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our favor...fast!! <br>
The downside? Some American businesses will feel a temporary pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory. Wahhhhhhhhhhhh<br>
** Downside?? <br>
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The solution ? <br>
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Let's give them fair warning and send our own message. Most of the people who have been reading about this matter are planning on implementing this on June 4, and continue it until July 4. <br>
That is only one month of trading losses, but it will hit the Chinese for 1/12th of the total, or 8%, of their American exports. Then they will at least have to ask themselves if the benefits of their arrogance and lawlessness were worth it. <br>
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Remember, June 4 to July 4. <br>
OH what the heck . . . START NOW!!<br>
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Send this to everybody you know.<br>
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Show them we are Americans <br>
and NOBODY can take us for granted.<br>
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If we can't live without cheap Chinese<br>
goods for one month out of our lives,<br>
WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET!<br>
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Pass it on America]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-05-26T20:41:53-04:00</dc:date>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-05-26T20:41:53-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<title><![CDATA[Obama 2008 (Grand Rapids)]]></title>
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Yeah... Obama DID come here and he made an INCREDIBLE speech. Yeah... he DID take his name off of the ballot along with John Edwards. The top three contenders all had a MUTUAL agreement that ALL of their names would come off of the ballot, HOWEVER, AFTER Obama and Edwards took their names off of the ballot, Hillary went back on her word and left hers on. Since her name was solo on the ballot, she won. Hillary went back on her word. She lied. She made an agreement with her opponents and went back on her word. NOW that she is losing do the Michigan and Florida delegates matter to her. Don't think she thinks Michigan is anything more than a desperate chance of her horse winning the race. She is as deceptive as her husband was to her when he cheated. I don't think she is the worst person in the world but I do think she is not cut out to be our president.   I personally have chosen Obama to be our president and no matter what your opinions are, just VOTE this year but not after gathering as much information you can before taking part in one of the most important elections our country has ever had.<br>
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Yeah he did a great speech (or so I hear) at the Van Andel. Must be nice now that he is looking for delegates he comes here and makes a big speech like we are then next best thing to sliced bread. However when us Michiganders were bad ones he took his name off the ballot and didn't even come here. NOW he needs us and he is here with big hoopla speeches of how he is going to save the manufacturing sector. At least McCain is forthright and says those jobs are gone and they are. The reason is because of the greedy lazy ass employees who were union workers who didn't so squat and costs the car companies millions in BS time. Save it, all the candidates suck like usual and nothing will ever change because they are all talk and will do anything to get in that office.<br>
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<dc:date>2008-05-26T18:55:37-04:00</dc:date>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-05-26T18:55:37-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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<description><![CDATA[Yeah he did a great speech (or so I hear) at the Van Andel.  Must be nice now that he is looking for delegates he comes here and makes a big speech like we are then next best thing to sliced bread.  However when us Michiganders were bad ones he took his name off the ballot and didn't even come here.  NOW he needs us and he is here with big hoopla speeches of how he is going to save the manufacturing sector.  At least McCain is forthright and says those jobs are gone and they are.  The reason is because of the greedy lazy ass employees who were union workers who didn't so squat and costs the car companies millions in BS time.  Save it, all the candidates suck like usual and nothing will ever change because they are all talk and will do anything to get in that office.]]></description>
<dc:date>2008-05-26T17:47:52-04:00</dc:date>
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<dcterms:issued>2008-05-26T17:47:52-04:00</dcterms:issued>
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